Hi, I am looking for a new M4, I have been looking into the TM sopmod M4 but have decided since it is 500 i wouldnt be able to buy a pistol and some new gear before Fulda Gap 09'. So I was wondering if any of you guys knew of a good M4 made by a good company (TM, ICS, etc.) and why you would recommend it. I am looking for quality so a metal body and such would be good so it wont break easily but don't let that totally stop you from recommending a great gun. Oh and also what online store I can buy it and some extra magazines. If you want to be extremely helpful maybe put what i might want to upgrade or what kind of battery i should get with it if the one out of the box isn't good.
Thanks in advance!

-EGsniper

well, what I would do is get a echo 1 and put a full metal body on it, maybe a batter gearbox or tight barrel

ok I will look into that, i don't want to be limited to one suggestion so any others?

The CA 09's are extremely well built and by far one of the best guns on the market for the price... New motor, new hop-up, redesigned and reinforced piston, and noone has had the trigger contact problem that the CA's used too! Its a great all around BB hose... The non RIS CA's run at about $250, the RIS ones are about $350 depending on the one you want. They also make factory "custom" ones that run into the $400's.

G&P makes a great mk18 mod 0(think M733 or M933 with an RIS and crane stock). The motors and wiring are top notch, ROF is incredible(due too M120 speed motor), comes with Deans connectors stock, its a very solid rifle and it runs about $300-$350...

WE makes a great Gas Blow Back Rifle(GBBr). The rifle is relatively cheap and runs off of green gas. The mags will run about $40 but they only hold 30 rounds, so it may not suit your style much. Awesome recoil and blow back though, and not the crappy AEG blow backs. This blow back system is a true blow back, so the bolt moves exactly like the real bolt on an AR moves...

Those are just a few choices, there is some more but I thought it might be better too stop here .

sticks

ok thanks im going to look more into the CA M4 you just suggested, sounds like they fixed some of the problems in their older models.

ok now im stuck between classic army 09' M4 and the G&P mk18 mod 0. I haven't been able to really find the classic army one and if i did i didnt recognize it so if anyone knows a store that has it, (couldnt even find it on the classic army site) that wold be great. So really im leaning toward CA but it is still really hard and im torn between the two.

Here is the M4,
http://www.airsoftsmith.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_22_37&products_id=429

Here are the rest of the 09' CA's that they have in stock....
http://www.airsoftsmith.com/store/index.php?cPath=21_22_37&osCsid=bop0n3fqga7nvdmnrddm1e3595

Go for whatever you want. The G&P's do not use the Tamaya connectors, so you may have to have someone put Deans connectors on your battery's... The CA's use the standard Tamaya connectors(the white block kind).

sticks

or you should maybe consider KWA, I have loved my km4 cqb since the day it arrive, also, the new 2009 kwa's are amazing, there is a rifle for any role or position you may have intrest in.

yeah i think it is between KWA and CA for the M4, im still looking for the 2009 version of the KWA but i found the CQB version of the CA M4 (atleast i think it is it costs 350 and seems the same, a lot of time away from airsoft makes you forget stuff )

link to the pre order of only half of the 2009 line up. All the m4 m16 variants are on pre order now...

http://www.airsoftgi.com/index.php?cPath=139_24_202&osCsid=e16ug6ls4i588pip4hvis6eoe1

I personally have a 2008 kwa m4 cqb, and i will be purchasing a 2009 kwa sr 5, or the m4 ris.

so what does everyone think? should i buy the 2009 CA or preorder the KWA M4? both will be the RIS version

which KWA? there are now four or five models with ris, all of them being an m4 variant.

the KWA Full Metal KM4 RIS Airsoft Gun (second one on the page you linked me).

so anyone have thoughts on which I should get?

I would get the KWA. they have groundbreaking internals and a high ROF. In a stress test with a 23 volt battery, during which an E1 p90 only lasted one shot before the piston was ripped apart, the KWAs lasted 8 highcaps full. Thats pretty amazing, and I've never heard anyone say anything bad about them.

cool thanks

look at airsoftgi's gi g4 socom . it comes with a metal rail sytem for a forgrip and one for a sight but it has ok fps but u can always upgrade it